(01-04-2018, 07:02 PM)thecdn Wrote: Hey! I can throw out random quotes as well!Hi CDN,
Treaty of Tripoli, 1796
ARTICLE 11.
As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion,-as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen,-and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
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https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-cult...e-5659505/
Thomas Jefferson, together with several of his fellow founding fathers, was influenced by the principles of deism, a construct that envisioned a supreme being as a sort of watchmaker who had created the world but no longer intervened directly in daily life. A product of the Age of Enlightenment, Jefferson was keenly interested in science and the perplexing theological questions it raised. Although the author of the Declaration of Independence was one of the great champions of religious freedom, his belief system was sufficiently out of the mainstream that opponents in the 1800 presidential election labeled him a “howling Atheist.”
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Article VI Section (3) of the U.S. Constitution is the only reference to religion in the original Constitution and it says “The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution: but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or Public Trust under the United States.
That was fun....
That is an odd set of quotes you selected:
Treaty of Tripoli, 1796.
Treaty of Peace and Friendship, signed at Tripoli November 4, 1796 (3 Ramada I, A. H. 1211), and at Algiers January 3, 1797 (4 Rajab, A. H. 1211). Original in Arabic. Submitted to the Senate May 29, 1797. (Message of May 26, 1797.) Resolution of advice and consent June 7, 1797. Ratified by the United States June 10, 1797. As to the ratification generally, see the notes. Proclaimed Jane 10, 1797.
It seems the Arabs were concerned about Christians when they drafted that document.
The Declaration of Independence relies upon the Laws of Nature and Nature's God. That is the foundation for the United States. God's laws apply to all His creation, Jews, Christians, Muslims and even Atheists.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-cult...e-5659505/
You stopped too soon! The very next sentence from that article reads:
Quote:In fact, Jefferson was devoted to the teachings of Jesus Christ.
You did find Article VI Section (3) of the U.S. Constitution. And yes CDN in the United States Jews, Christians, Muslims and even Atheists may hold public office. Yet the nation they represent shall forever be that nation founded on the Laws of Nature and Nature's God.
In your post #31 you list atrocities committed by "Christians." Can you locate a verse from the Bible where Jesus did any of those things or condoned another to do them?
You also claim to be a Canadian who lives in the US. To become a Citizen you must take an oath:
Quote:Naturalization Oath of Allegiance to the United States of AmericaI added the underline.
"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."
Shalom!
N G