A very interesting article that features Juliette's character

[rpmaluki]

Who knows what she would have done? She'd already tried crushing Adalind under a stone statue and Nick couldn't take a chance that she was bluffing. The baby was innocent and Juliette was spewing nonsense about no child of Adalind was after telling Nick she was going to send Adalind to hell. The goal was to kill Adalind and take the baby down with her. Using her telekinetic abilities could have ended that scene without anyone the wiser except for Nick, Adalind and maybe Sean. It's Nick standing between them that gave Juliette pause as she shockingly said Nick was choosing Adalind over her. That sent her over the edge and straight into Kenneth's/Royal's arms. I don't think Juliette was bluffing but you do, it doesn't matter either way, Nick as a trained police officer couldn't just assume something like that. What if he made the wrong call and Juliette did do something? By Nick's standard that would mean he let an innocent life die to placate his furious girlfriend. Hardly any cop shows dismiss a threat to a woman (pregnant or otherwise) as a bluff just because they are in a public place. Nick was right to stand between the two women.

Juliette being a terrible shot isn't what saved Monroe (and she was a good shot after owning a gun for a couple of years), that was Hank acting in time and diving between Nick and Monroe and prevented a tragedy set in motion by Juliette. Them taking out their guns was in reaction to her violent outbursts. They were reacting to her not the other way round.

Nick did blame Adalind for Juliette turning into a hexenbiest and Adalind told him he could have Juliette back to her old self albeit temporarily as long it kept Juliette away from her and her son so Nick did send Adalind away, to live with Bud. What he doesn't blame Adalind for is Juliette's actions. That was all Juliette and Nick understood that. Adalind kept her word about the suppressant but Juliette had chosen a different path for herself, Adalind didn't make her do the things she did. Let's be honest, whether Nick chose to leave with Adalind at the station or not was irrelevant. Juliette was fuming having been told of Adalind's pregnancy, Nick would have still "sided" with Adalind because of the baby. Juliette just couldn't see past her anger that it was all Nick was doing trying to keep Adalind's unborn child and maybe his son alive and nothing more than that. Juliette would have seen any attempt by him as a direct attack on her because of Adalind.

[dicappatore]

For me, Nick should have reacted differently, but when a person is in a state of shock whatever caused the shock, people are people - they don't know how they will react / respond until it happens. Nick leaving was to my way of thinking, was a huge mistake. She needed to know someone was compassionate, but at the same time, Nick needed someone too, and he had no one - having each other when they are both experiencing a huge-ass shock, are coming at it from their own unique standpoints.

I understand the part about the gun and Juliette's abilities and what you're saying about all that, syscrash. Tensions and fears were in the red zone, so anything could happen and Nick and Hank were trained to be prepared.

Well, in the scene when Nick walks out, Juliette was not acting like a poor traumatized damsel in distress. She was in voge and in his face, and rubbed it in, and dared him to kiss her, before he walked out! Like the old battery commercial. What’s that actor’s name, puts a battery on his shoulder and dares you to knock it off. I dont recall her voge for Renard and Kenneth before she kissed and shagged them?

I wonder if this Psychologist saw that scene, where she voge and dares Nick to kiss her as the old hag? And did an analysis to the trauma Nick was experiencing? When he saw her voge and he pulled out his gun, not thinking it was Juliette but he was thinking it was Adalind morphed into Juliette, AGAIN, and there to rape him AGAIN! As I recall, he pulled out his gun and said, “What have you done with Juliette”! Another small fact overlooked by the “Blame Nick for not being sensitive enough” crowd.

If he didn’t care, why was he pissed that she went to Renard first. Why did he go to see Henrietta? And didn’t kill her. Yet poor little Juliette still believed Nick wanted to kill her. Give me a flocking break. She did not just turn into a Hex. Like I stated on many posts. The Hex released the suppressed Bitch in her that we see about the few small recounts of her past and how many times did she questioned Nick’s fidelity?

If you look up, why some people blame their partners of infidelity, without any evidence. It is usually done because of their own guilt of their actual cheating they committed. It is usually from guilt that they have “done the deed”. Now, they try to blame their partners for the same, to justify their indiscretion. Hey, Phyco-babe. Ever looked into that, about Juliette?

[rpmaluki]

Actually when he saw her woge he assumed it was Adalind who'd already hurt Juliette, not that she was there to violate him.

It was impossible for Nick to react positively and be accepting of something so traumatic on the spot. Juliette herself reacted badly to the change so why expect Nick to be any different?

[silver]

For me, Nick should have reacted differently, but when a person is in a state of shock whatever caused the shock, people are people - they don't know how they will react / respond until it happens. Nick leaving was to my way of thinking, was a huge mistake. She needed to know someone was compassionate, but at the same time, Nick needed someone too, and he had no one - having each other when they are both experiencing a huge-ass shock, are coming at it from their own unique standpoints.

I understand the part about the gun and Juliette's abilities and what you're saying about all that, syscrash. Tensions and fears were in the red zone, so anything could happen and Nick and Hank were trained to be prepared.

Well, in the scene when Nick walks out, Juliette was not acting like a poor traumatized damsel in distress. She was in voge and in his face, and rubbed it in, and dared him to kiss her, before he walked out! Like the old battery commercial. What’s that actor’s name, puts a battery on his shoulder and dares you to knock it off. I dont recall her voge for Renard and Kenneth before she kissed and shagged them?

I wonder if this Psychologist saw that scene, where she voge and dares Nick to kiss her as the old hag? And did an analysis to the trauma Nick was experiencing? When he saw her voge and he pulled out his gun, not thinking it was Juliette but he was thinking it was Adalind morphed into Juliette, AGAIN, and there to rape him AGAIN! As I recall, he pulled out his gun and said, “What have you done with Juliette”! Another small fact overlooked by the “Blame Nick for not being sensitive enough” crowd.

If he didn’t care, why was he pissed that she went to Renard first. Why did he go to see Henrietta? And didn’t kill her. Yet poor little Juliette still believed Nick wanted to kill her. Give me a flocking break. She did not just turn into a Hex. Like I stated on many posts. The Hex released the suppressed Bitch in her that we see about the few small recounts of her past and how many times did she questioned Nick’s fidelity?

If you look up, why some people blame their partners of infidelity, without any evidence. It is usually done because of their own guilt of their actual cheating they committed. It is usually from guilt that they have “done the deed”. Now, they try to blame their partners for the same, to justify their indiscretion. Hey, Phyco-babe. Ever looked into that, about Juliette?

Your first sentence to what I watched is totally inaccurate. The rest of your post is one incredible hodgepodge of your own emotions that you cannot control. Um, btw are you calling me he 'Phyco-babe' or who are you talking to?

I'd prefer not to interact with you, because a whole lot of the time you're out of control and way too often resort to referring to some imaginary psycho-sexual problems that Juliette has...I guess.

If I could have made sense of your post, it would make life a lot easier. I still miss Grimm too and continue (albeit less often) to watch my dvd's.

D said, "I wonder if this Psychologist saw that scene, where she voge and dares Nick to kiss her as the old hag?"

If I'm not mistaken, this is an effect the potion had - using aversion tactic to help end the obsession with J.

[Henry of green]

The second scene in 4x14 were Nick walks out because Juliette woged and damaned a kiss is totally Juliette's fault though to be fair she was confused and not thinking straight. They were both as equally responsible for their actions in season 4 and both contributed to their break up, after that though Juliette hexenbitch took things too far with evil vendetta against former friends and nieghbors. Nick showed great restraint in not murdering her for what she did on Kelly had it been me I would have decorated the celling with her blood splatter then regretted it later.

[silver]

The second scene in 4x14 were Nick walks out because Juliette woged and damaned a kiss is totally Juliette's fault though to be fair she was confused and not thinking straight.

Um oh, I guess that's the mistake I made - D was talking about that, not Renard and 'the hag' J turned into - that was funny, though.

[Henry of green]

Yes that's the scene he is talking about. I don't hold it against Juliette for sleeping with Renard it was in poor tastes sleeping with Nicks boss but she was technically single at the time. I do however think her sleeping with Kenneth straight after the nieghbors deaths and right before Kelly's death in Nicks bed was disgusting as she was basically celebrating their deaths with sex.

[dicappatore]

For me, Nick should have reacted differently, but when a person is in a state of shock whatever caused the shock, people are people - they don't know how they will react / respond until it happens. Nick leaving was to my way of thinking, was a huge mistake. She needed to know someone was compassionate, but at the same time, Nick needed someone too, and he had no one - having each other when they are both experiencing a huge-ass shock, are coming at it from their own unique standpoints.

I understand the part about the gun and Juliette's abilities and what you're saying about all that, syscrash. Tensions and fears were in the red zone, so anything could happen and Nick and Hank were trained to be prepared.

Well, in the scene when Nick walks out, Juliette was not acting like a poor traumatized damsel in distress. She was in voge and in his face, and rubbed it in, and dared him to kiss her, before he walked out! Like the old battery commercial. What’s that actor’s name, puts a battery on his shoulder and dares you to knock it off. I dont recall her voge for Renard and Kenneth before she kissed and shagged them?

I wonder if this Psychologist saw that scene, where she voge and dares Nick to kiss her as the old hag? And did an analysis to the trauma Nick was experiencing? When he saw her voge and he pulled out his gun, not thinking it was Juliette but he was thinking it was Adalind morphed into Juliette, AGAIN, and there to rape him AGAIN! As I recall, he pulled out his gun and said, “What have you done with Juliette”! Another small fact overlooked by the “Blame Nick for not being sensitive enough” crowd.

If he didn’t care, why was he pissed that she went to Renard first. Why did he go to see Henrietta? And didn’t kill her. Yet poor little Juliette still believed Nick wanted to kill her. Give me a flocking break. She did not just turn into a Hex. Like I stated on many posts. The Hex released the suppressed Bitch in her that we see about the few small recounts of her past and how many times did she questioned Nick’s fidelity?

If you look up, why some people blame their partners of infidelity, without any evidence. It is usually done because of their own guilt of their actual cheating they committed. It is usually from guilt that they have “done the deed”. Now, they try to blame their partners for the same, to justify their indiscretion. Hey, Phyco-babe. Ever looked into that, about Juliette?

Your first sentence to what I watched is totally inaccurate. The rest of your post is one incredible hodgepodge of your own emotions that you cannot control. Um, btw are you calling me he 'Phyco-babe' or who are you talking to?

I'd prefer not to interact with you, because a whole lot of the time you're out of control and way too often resort to referring to some imaginary psycho-sexual problems that Juliette has...I guess.

If I could have made sense of your post, it would make life a lot easier. I still miss Grimm too and continue (albeit less often) to watch my dvd's.

D said, "I wonder if this Psychologist saw that scene, where she voge and dares Nick to kiss her as the old hag?"

If I'm not mistaken, this is an effect the potion had - using aversion tactic to help end the obsession with J.

As for Juliette, to my standards, Yes, she was a promiscuous harlot before she met Nick. I have posted the examples from her past on various threads. These are not opinions of mines but actual Season, Episode and the scene with transcripts, which give us tidbits of information about her past.

She was popular with boys and their cars as a teenager. Multiple college partners. Using a guy, she was sleeping with before she met Nick, After, living with Nick for years, she walks out on him and screws Sean two days later and a few weeks later she shags Kenneth, then has a tryst with Rachel as Renard.

Note, I did not mention the making out sessions she had with Renard. It was excusable due to the coma awakening after effects. But she surely did not reciprocate the patience Nick shown her for that whole obsession circumstances when it was her turn to wait for Nick to accept her as a Hex?

They are on posted on various threads for your reading pleasure. They recount some of her growing up behavior. I will not re-post them. Why bother doing all the leg work to just be told, I imagined the transcripts. I took them out of context.

As for your confused statement:

D said, "I wonder if this Psychologist saw that scene, where she voge and dares Nick to kiss her as the old hag?"

If I'm not mistaken, this is an effect the potion had - using aversion tactic to help end the obsession with J.

You are totally confused by a few seasons. The potion she drank for the obsession spell was in season 2. When she voge to Nick as a Hex (The old hag look), is in season 4 after she had sex with Nick as Adalind, for Nick to get his Grimm back. And for this to happen, there was no potion to drink, but she did have to inhale some green mist out of a hat, but only three times.

As for my imaginary psycho-sexual problems with Juliette? I attest, this is no, ”Games of Throne”. But, where would this show have gone if it wasn’t for the sex these characters had?

You should take your own advice and re-watch your DVD’s, take notes, then my posts will become much clearer.

BTW, there is a way to block my posts, since you are so offended with my facts.

[silver]

D, I will respond to those points I truly care about. I was misled by your use of the word 'hag' because a hexenbiest doesn't look like a hag...more like a Skeletor creature, fwiw. I thought you may have misspoke and said Nick when you meant Renard or something.

I never gave any credence to your arguments esp when you include the script because each audience member has their own personal take on the events of any given story, no matter its source. What is a trollop to you is a regular woman to someone else, and every opinion in-between. Hence, your so-called 'facts' are not what offends.

Whether you like it or not, Juliette or real life people that are (in your opinion) like her, are your and my fellow human beings. We are all the ones the Holy Bible points at when it speaks about the board in one person's eye keeps them from seeing their own imperfections and 'sins'.

[irukandji]

Blame his DNA and Adalind.

If Nick cannot help but believe Juliette is a monster because of his DNA, that should have been a red flag to him that he shouldn't have been trying to fix her. He can't be objective toward a person he has such an aversion to.