08-05-2018, 11:31 PM
(This post was last modified: 08-06-2018, 12:00 AM by dicappatore.)
(08-05-2018, 06:46 AM)irukandji Wrote: I recall a comment from a poster not so long ago:
"Nick has a history of almost 4 seasons bending over backward for this bitch".
To be sure, the poster who made this comment is now contradicting himself. However, this is not the only comment from the forum that points fingers at Juliette as the issue in the Nick/Juliette relationship.
If Nick is the stereotypical male, why the severe criticism of Juliette then?
Why are you so afraid of pointing fingers at me? I can take it! Why are you so afraid to admit, you can't stand it when faced with reality. Not just by me but also by some of your allies. You just can't believe what you saw on the screen so you make up or twist shitz around.
I don't have contradictions. The only contradictions are the ones with YOU having the INABILITY to distinguish what you wished for these characters and what you saw on the screen. That is the contradiction here. The one in your mind.
I always wished for Nick to end up with Juliette because she was the love of his life, not because she was so wonderful. Wasn't it me that came up with the term "doofus" for Nick? If I wasn't me, I am sure I agreed to it.
Why? Because he put up with her miss-trust and back stabbing as what ever she was or became. How much more clearer ca n I make it?
My wish for Nick, the hero of the show, was to end up with the woman he loved. But the way the creators created her, she was not deserving of his affection or love.
I don't have any contradictions my dear, but you do have a comprehension problems on what you read on this forum and what you saw on the screen...
(08-05-2018, 11:39 AM)irukandji Wrote:(08-05-2018, 10:22 AM)brandon Wrote: What stereotype?
If he's not a tv stereotypical male, why then didn't Nick clue in to how odd "Juliette" was acting? I get that he might not be able to tell this was someone else he was having an afternoon delight with. But if he's truly the good and wonderful man you see him as, why wasn't he sensing that there's "something wrong with Juliette"?
(08-05-2018, 10:04 AM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote:(08-05-2018, 06:46 AM)irukandji Wrote: If Nick is the stereotypical male, why the severe criticism of Juliette then?
I suspect that there are some people who identify with the stereotypical male.
And both of you just don't like it. Funny how you use the word "stereotypical". Seems you use it as a bad word. Is it?
(08-05-2018, 01:07 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote:(08-05-2018, 04:56 AM)dicappatore Wrote: Thats why, you analyze the characters presented on the screen, not what you wished for.
That is what I'm doing. Except that you can't really critique what a character did if you have no concept of the character should have done.
I'm fairly certain that it was never "writers' intent" for Nick to be a total relationship doofus, but there were at most maybe a half dozen Nick/Juliette scenes in the entire series that didn't make me want to hit Nick over the head with something.
I do recall, I myself made a comment about Nick deserving an NCIS Jethro "back of the head" slap.
(08-05-2018, 07:05 PM)irukandji Wrote: There's a scene where Eve talks about not being able to forgive Juliette for all of the bad things she's done. That includes of course, the obvious things the audience sees as bad.
But what if Eve is also talking about not being able to forgive Juliette for the time she spent with Nick and had nothing to show for it? I can't tell you how many women I know who start off with, "I can never forgive myself for wasting years on (insert name here) and putting up with his sh+t! Juliette wasted a lot of time and effort on Nick. I can see where Eve might look at that as just another thing she can't forgive Juliette for.
Everyone thinks Juliette's hexenbiest was a terrible thing. In some ways, I think it gave her an insight she never would have had as a human. Could you imagine her 20 years later, hanging with Nick and still having nothing to show for it?
Thank you, Thank You, Thank You. Do we need any more proof of your delusions? Thanks again for confirming it with this post.
(08-05-2018, 07:34 PM)irukandji Wrote: Eve had no good words for her Juliette counterpart. I would think that if Juliette and Nick were a good thing, Eve would have, at the very least, made a comment about it.
(08-05-2018, 07:35 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: Well, Eve is rather emphatic that she wouldn't go back to the way things were even if she could, so I don't think that possibility can be ruled out. We just can't quantify what percentage of her total regrets it might represent.
I am perplexed. Did both of you miss the scene when Eve threatens someone to be ware of her if any harm should come to Nick or Kelly? Did she do that because she regretted wasting time with Nick as Juliette?
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