(11-13-2017, 05:02 PM)irukandji Wrote: You know my position on Nick. He took an oath as a police officer to serve and protect. I know the show is Grimm and he's a grimm, but in my opinion, his oath as an LEO supercedes anything he chooses to make up so that he can call himself a grimm. So I cannot agree with Nick being judge, jury and executioner. That means his oath, which is his word, is no good and that means he is no good. After all, what is a man without his word?Hello Iruk,
You mentioned that Nick told the scoobies to kill Juliette and this raised a question in my mind. Does Nick have the right to order others to do his killing for him?
I was able to find this documentation:
http://www.oregon.gov/dpsst/docs/ethicsvol20.pdf
If Nick were a real PPB detective, his oath would be:
Quote:On my honor,Also,
I will never betray my badge, my integrity, my character, or the public trust.
I will always have the courage to hold myself and others accountable for our actions.
I will always uphold the constitution, my community and the agency I serve.
https://www.portlandoregon.gov/police/
displays the PPB Motto:
Quote:Sworn to protect. Dedicated to serve.Regardless, your statement to Henry:
Quote:henry, I agree with you that Sean is corrupt. But he's been corrupt since the series began. Nick was not. He started out as an LEO that was on the right side of the law.raises this question:
Do you apply different standards to a cop who was "corrupt since the series began," than a cop who "started out as an LEO that was on the right side of the law."
I agree that most (if not all) the PPB cops on the Grimm show were "corrupt" based on real world law, but in the Grimm/Wesen world, the rules change the rules.
In one of the final scenes of the pilot episode, 01.01:
Quote:Scene: Nick goes to the hospital and sits by Marie's bed.Could it be Nick is pledging a sort of "Grimm Oath?"
Nick: There's so much I don't understand. There's so many things I need to ask you. Look, I love Juliette. I don't want anything to happen to her. I want you to know, whatever it is I'm supposed to do, I'll do it.
http://grimm.wikia.com/wiki/Grimm
Quote:Grimms served as the (usually) freelance police of the Wesen world, dispatching those who could not live in peace with humans (by contrast, the Wesen Council enforced the internal rules of Wesen society). As a general rule, it was the responsibility of the Grimms to hunt down "the bad ones," those aggressive and malicious Wesen who preyed on humans or other Wesen. The majority of Grimms were only exposed to the Wesen community through these malcontents, leading some of them, namely the Endezeichen Grimms, to consider all Wesen abominations that needed to be exterminated.For most of the series, Nick seems mild mannered for a Grimm.
The final lines for the series end as:
Quote:Kelly, come on.I believe it was Diana's line "We've got Wesen to kill." Note Diana's first kill was in 3.13, "Revelation" she kills a Verrat agent by Telekinetically stabbing him in the eye with a pen. She has an impressive list of victims for such a young person.
- I'm almost done.
- Let's go.
- Diana.
- Hurry up.
I'm coming.
Mom and Dad are waiting.
We've got Wesen to kill.
The triplets are coming, too.
Yeah.
What's taking you so long?
IMO, the Grimm show is about discovery, hunting down and "dispatching those who could not live in peace." Lacking that element, the show would have been a flop. How could it survive WOW monster killers if the protagonist was shackled to real world police procedure? Boring.
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