10-13-2017, 06:15 AM
(10-13-2017, 06:04 AM)degrimm Wrote:It's a possibility I agree but I need more than an offscreen scene of Nick getting a fake certificate in order to sell the house days (weeks?) after Juliette's death to go on, be it a deleted scene, a changed script, something...anything more than what we got to discount Nick owning the house alone. With nothing, we'll just have to agree to disagree.(10-13-2017, 05:13 AM)rpmaluki Wrote:(10-13-2017, 04:09 AM)degrimm Wrote:This is too convoluted for this show, which always made a point to show/tell us something that would be significant later on, like Renard backclapping Nick over all the killing he's done since becoming a Grimm. If the house was Juliette's and Nick managed to sell the house fraudulently, they would have told us how he at least managed that. This show doesn't know subterfuge except in the form of Juliette"dying" and even that was not convincing because we knew she'd be back.(10-13-2017, 02:54 AM)rpmaluki Wrote:(10-12-2017, 08:03 PM)silver Wrote: I agree with the fact that they are all villains/victims. It's an adult show - geared towards adults and they all want to win and get what they want or feel is the right thing. Some of the characters are flying by the seat of their pants and doing stuff that is just a means to an end, and Nick did have a whole lot of very effective tactics to use. HE knew he wasn't trying to push himself onto her in any sexual way whatsoever, and Adalind was always pulling something underhanded and deadly. She brought that on herself - the fight with Nick.I hear you but can't the same be applied to Nick and Adalind when she took his powers, that he brought it on himself for the kidnapping, the lying that saw her go to Viktor in order to be reunited with the daughter that he handed over to his mother? The two situations are not as dissimilar as we make them out to be depending on perspective (Nick's vs Adalind's). There's extenuating circumstances on both sides, not just Nick's. Nick was trying to save Hank's life and that's commendable but Adalind was a desperate mother wanting her daughter back. It's not so black and white as simply saying she raped him end of story. Yes she sexually assaulted him but that was never her end goal. He sexually assaulted her but that wasn't his end goal either.
Btw, I'm not belittling Adalind's actions and hyping Nick's, I'm just pointing out that Adalind isn't this cut board cut out villain in her sordid history with Nick. If that was the case, I don't believe Nick would have allowed himself to fall for her if all he ever was was her victim. She pointed it out to him at the station when she told him she was pregnant with their child.
(10-12-2017, 10:01 PM)degrimm Wrote: Last i remember she's lived in the house for 6 years, 4 of which she spent with nick. Isn't nick a police officer or detective, doesn't a police department have an autopsy med department and isn't the department connected to a captain which nick at that point in time, was in good terms with?? so how difficult will it be to get a death certificate of juliette.They actually moved into the house together. The flashback in S2 shows plenty boxes piled on top of one another with hardly any furniture. There's no sign of the house being lived in when Nick asks Juliette to hold the door for him. Later that night as they are unpacking his Elvis lamp, Nick comments about how there's nothing in the fridge except beer. There are still boxes around them.
The show may not have explicitly said who owned the house but Nick selling it is a big indicator. He called it his house a lot more times that she ever did (I even checked to be sure) especially in S1 when Juliette's character was inconsequential to the story until Adalind decided to go after her. S2 is tricky because of the amnesia spell. It seems to viewers as though she owns the house because we have those short flashbacks. In her mind, it was her house because she's lived in it for years and sees it no other way even if Nick owns the property. She had no memory of Nick but remembered everything else including Monroe, Nick's friend, whom she met through Nick. Amnesiac Juliette is not a reliable source of who owns the house because her memories have been screwed up by a spell.
At best, the house is under both their names but if that was the case, Nick couldn't sell the house without her dead (without death certificate) or alive. He believed she was dead and without her body he couldn't prove it in order to sell the house. The ownership of the house is among one of many clumsy details not properly fleshed out but can be deduced from what we do see on the show, not excluding the flashbacks, however unsatisfactorily.
Great detection there and i went back to watch S2 and you are absolutely right about them moving in together and not nick moving into juliette's house. So, they actually met 2 years before they moved in together; but still nick being the sole owner of the house cannot be proved based on him selling the house. Both of them moving in together into a prefurnished house meant that they had planned to share their lives together.
So like i said earlier, he's a cop, and sean renard is a captain; they cover up killings or cases every single week and create a bullshit story; so, telling me property agencies need to see a dead body before they sell a house, in a fictional sense of view , doesn't seem feasible . You can't tell me it would be that difficult to find a way to get a death certificate especially when they have a autopsy lab. Sole ownership of the house can be transfered when all these are put into place.
For the longest time I was convinced the house was solely Juliette's until I scoured the transcripts and watched all the flashbacks of Nick and Juliette and realised there's nothing that conclusively says she owned the house. They moved in together into an empty house on the same day and later Nick sold the house. Juliette's relatives and friends should've have contested Nick doing so if the house belonged to her. With Eve having no place to go, it was a good opportunity to reclaim compensation for the sale so she could set out on her own instead of relying on his/their friends kindness.
the house is for both of them, which i ve confirmed and i believe that but not for nick alone as that isn't confirmed;as i said that it's possible for him to sell the house with a cover-up death certificate without a body