(06-21-2016, 05:03 AM)Kathryn Wooten Wrote:(06-21-2016, 03:57 AM)New Guy Wrote:(06-20-2016, 06:48 PM)Robyn Wrote:Hi Robyn,(06-20-2016, 05:18 PM)New Guy Wrote: Robyn and Kathryn,So how does this compare to Nick under the influence of the Zombie spell? Nick was on a rampage, violent, hit Juliette, killed a man. The show supplied a contrived out for Nick, the man he killed had a knife. However, Nick, under the Zombie influence had no idea the man had a knife when he killed him. Nick, the Grimm, unable to resist the Zombie spell influence, killed the man.
If Hexenbiest spells were so powerful that no one could resist them then the world would be totally controlled by Hexenbiests. It is an individual choice to live by high moral and ethical standards. Renard will kill if it suits him. When Jack "possessed" Renard it was simple for Jack to get him to murder the hookers because his own moral standards are so low. His lack of any remorse for the murders shows how amoral he is.
The re-Grimm turned Juliette into a Hexenbiest. It didn't alter her morals. She just used it as an excuse to launch a tirade of hatred and acts of violence against Nick or anyone who tried to "help" her. IMO even if there had been no Hexen-side-effect Juliette may have implemented her vile acts because her hatred was already within her. The Hexenbiest simply amplified the severity of her heinous crimes. She enjoyed what she did and like Renard has no remorse because she also is amoral.
New Guy
The point is that when Nick learned that the guy in the bar fight died he took responsibility, had remorse and was about to turn himself in. Renard talked him out of it.
Compare that to Renard. When he learned he had murdered the hookers he only looked for a way to dodge responsibility and had no remorse.
New Guy
I assume Nick showed compassion to every wesen he killed..( nope)
example the bee lady. I always wonder why he killed her, when she was warning him the day of reckoning was coming. Only regret I saw there was (damn) I needed more information.....we can't pick and choose who is more guilty killing people than the other. As Renard told Nick we not going to add up the dead are we? if I am not mistaken Nick killing does not even compare with Renard's infact you can count renard killing's (possessed or other wise) under 20 as seen on TV...we can stop counting Nick's killing at 20 and triple that every season... Nick has nothing on Renard in body count..Nick is the champion
i think nick killed the bee lady cos she tried to inject hank with that toxin. he was acting like a cop then, getting initiated into the wesen world. but i do agree that till now he can't make decisions on his own. but nick now kills without emotions without compassion.