01-02-2018, 09:09 AM
(01-02-2018, 04:54 AM)dicappatore Wrote: If you are what you claim to be, as an atheist and I am sure you can’t speak for the
rest.
I am 100% a loud and proud atheist.
Quote:Can you answer a simple question? Why do most atheist get their feathers ruffled, create an uproar and even go to court to remove religious symbols from public view? If you do not believe something, why is it so upsetting when you see a symbol representing something you don’t believe.
It's not 'remove from public view' but 'remove from public space.' In this case public space being government space used or viewed by the public. IE a city municipal complex, a courthouse, etc.
The Supreme Court has stated that government cannot support one religion over another or religion over non-religion. Therefore a manger scene, a specifically christian display, should not be on a municipal complex field.
Obviously there have been such displays on city properties in the past but that's because people did not know it wasn't legal and 'everyone' liked it. In the age of the internet atheists are not only able to find out the actual rules and regulations about such things easier but also realize there are other atheists around and groups to support them. This has made it easier for an individual to complain about something not right where in the past they might have just said nothing.
Quote:I don’t believe in Buddha or Brahma, but when I see their statues, I don’t complain about it. I don’t protest it or go to court to have them removed or protest their presence. How could I get upset to see something I don’t believe in? Something atheist can’t seem to do. Why is something not believed in be so upsetting?
Something not believed in is not upsetting. The christian god upsets me no more than santa claus or the easter bunny. What is upsetting is the actions of many of the followers of these gods. The hatred and bigotry directed to lgbt people - gay marriage, gay adoption, gays in the military. Abortion rights, stem cell research, death with dignity, buying a damn beer in some places on a Sunday morning. The list of areas where christians want to impose their beliefs on others is frightening.
Oh, you say, you are a 'nice christian,' not one of those 'mean ones.' You interpret the exact same book in a different way - each of you pointing to a different part of scripture to back your views. No wonder there are more than 30,000 different sects of christianity - you don't like one aspect of your current church start your own and now god agrees with you.
Note that I am a Canadian who has lived in the US for about 18 years. It's safe to say that the US is by far the most religious first world nation. It's also the most violent (gun nuts ensure the country will remain a shooting gallery), has the highest incarceration level in the world, has millions without proper health care, a high infant mortality rate, and a huge gap between the rich and poor. Apparently all that religion doesn't make people nicer or the place better to live in.