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RE: Hexenbiestdom - FaceInTheCrowd - 08-12-2018
Rachel was seducing Renard as part of an orchestrated scheme. Nick was a guy thinking with his small brain. How observant do we imagine Renard was about Rachel when they were doing the deed?
As for Adalind's transformation, even if her "Juliette" body had been infertile, she would still have had Nick's little swimmers along for the ride when she changed back into herself. So no clues there.
RE: Hexenbiestdom - irukandji - 08-12-2018
(08-12-2018, 09:43 AM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: As for Adalind's transformation, even if her "Juliette" body had been infertile, she would still have had Nick's little swimmers along for the ride when she changed back into herself. So no clues there.
How would that have occurred since she was technically Juliette when she encountered Nick's little swimmers?
RE: Hexenbiestdom - FaceInTheCrowd - 08-12-2018
Adalind would have changed back. Anything that wasn't Adalind - on or in her - wouldn't have changed. Little swimmers can take days to find their target.
RE: Hexenbiestdom - irukandji - 08-12-2018
(08-12-2018, 10:02 AM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: Adalind would have changed back. Anything that wasn't Adalind - on or in her - wouldn't have changed. Little swimmers can take days to find their target.
Sure they can. *If* they were put into Adalind in the first place. They were not. They made their way into a doppelganger of Juliette. Once the enchantment of the doppelganger wore off, the swimmers would have disappeared along with the doppelganger. They wouldn't have made their way into Adalind because they were not in Adalind to begin with.
RE: Hexenbiestdom - brandon - 08-12-2018
Juliette could have been taking contraceptive pills. There are woman who get pregnant so fast and others not.
RE: Hexenbiestdom - FaceInTheCrowd - 08-12-2018
(08-12-2018, 10:18 AM)irukandji Wrote: Sure they can. *If* they were put into Adalind in the first place. They were not. They made their way into a doppelganger of Juliette. Once the enchantment of the doppelganger wore off, the swimmers would have disappeared along with the doppelganger. They wouldn't have made their way into Adalind because they were not in Adalind to begin with.
When people who use the doppleganger potion change, their clothes don't change with them. Why would you assume that anything else that isn't part of their own bodies is affected?
RE: Hexenbiestdom - irukandji - 08-12-2018
(08-12-2018, 11:05 AM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote:(08-12-2018, 10:18 AM)irukandji Wrote: Sure they can. *If* they were put into Adalind in the first place. They were not. They made their way into a doppelganger of Juliette. Once the enchantment of the doppelganger wore off, the swimmers would have disappeared along with the doppelganger. They wouldn't have made their way into Adalind because they were not in Adalind to begin with.
When people who use the doppleganger potion change, their clothes don't change with them. Why would you assume that anything else that isn't part of their own bodies is affected?
I'm saying Adalind didn't have her own body when she slept with Nick. She had Juliette's doppelganger. So if there was any pregnancy, it wouldn't have been Adalind's because Adalind did not physically exist.
RE: Hexenbiestdom - Hell Rell - 08-12-2018
Adalind did exist. Nick's little swimmers were always in Adalind. She didn't actually swap bodies with Juliette. She used a potion to make her look and probably feel like her.
After all, her mind along with her intelligence and memories weren't affected at all.
RE: Hexenbiestdom - FaceInTheCrowd - 08-12-2018
You're missing the point that she'd walk out the door as "Juliette" with Nick's swimmers inside her, and in the cab she'd change into Adalind with Nick's swimmers inside her. The change back isn't the potion acting on the body, that already happend; it's the effect of the potion wearing off.
And all of this is guesswork anyway, because we still don't know if the potion turned Adalind into Juliette or just turned her into Adalind who merely looked like Juliette.
RE: Hexenbiestdom - irukandji - 08-12-2018
(08-12-2018, 11:41 AM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: You're missing the point that she'd walk out the door as "Juliette" with Nick's swimmers inside her, and in the cab she'd change into Adalind with Nick's swimmers inside her. The change back isn't the potion acting on the body, that already happend; it's the effect of the potion wearing off.
And all of this is guesswork anyway, because we still don't know if the potion turned Adalind into Juliette or just turned her into Adalind who merely looked like Juliette.
If all of this is guesswork, then your guess is no better or worse than mine. You were the one who questioned if the potion simply made the person look like the subject or if it turned the subject's body into an actual working copy.
You're taking the position that the potion made Adalind look like Juliette. My position is that Adalind actually became a Juliette clone. Technically, the pregnancy should have never occurred because Adalind was Juliette's clone when she slept with Nick.
Of course there is also a third alternative. The pregnancy didn't take 40 weeks. There have been discussions that the baby Adalind was carrying was not Nick's. Adalind could have been pregnant before she ever slept with Nick. In which case, it wouldn't matter if the potion made her look like Juliette or if she became a clone. Once she reverted back, she'd still be carrying her baby.