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Miesner not a figment of Sean's active imagination - Kathryn Wooten - 01-22-2017
Why
here are examples
#1 Renard goes to his office while still holding his phone and he looks down and they are covered with blood even his phone had blood on it
#2 Sean was enthralled finding Nick in his office,when he gets the vision of the police officier with Miesner wounds on his face telling him : Your on the wrong side
#3 Devious Sean in the jail , who just got off the phone with the judge, then he heard something fall..he looks down and see a bullet casing ( he can actually pick it up and look at it) then he sees his gun on the cot, and He can actually pick it up/ hold it as a solid item
Lastly
A very sad and tired, and bruised Sean comes home almost to sore to move, because of the fight and you see someone already sitting in the chair..it was not like he popped in there, Miesner was waiting for him to come home
now what does all of these things tell you???
Correct not one time ..not one time was Sean thinking of Miesner at all to get the visions....so I say Miesner is something else and since the underworld is coming into play we start there. That something is disturbing the balance. Having Miesner continue to kick Renard when he is down serve no purpose ..question is , What is Miesner purpose?
RE: Miesner not a figment of Sean's active imagination - panther19 - 01-22-2017
(01-22-2017, 05:39 AM)Kathryn Wooten Wrote: Why
here are examples
#1 Renard goes to his office while still holding his phone and he looks down and they are covered with blood even his phone had blood on it
#2 Sean was enthralled finding Nick in his office,when he gets the vision of the police officier with Miesner wounds on his face telling him : Your on the wrong side
#3 Devious Sean in the jail , who just got off the phone with the judge, then he heard something fall..he looks down and see a bullet casing ( he can actually pick it up and look at it) then he sees his gun on the cot, and He can actually pick it up/ hold it as a solid item
Lastly
A very sad and tired, and bruised Sean comes home almost to sore to move, because of the fight and you see someone already sitting in the chair..it was not like he popped in there, Miesner was waiting for him to come home
now what does all of these things tell you???
Correct not one time ..not one time was Sean thinking of Miesner at all to get the visions....so I say Miesner is something else and since the underworld is coming into play we start there. That something is disturbing the balance. Having Miesner continue to kick Renard when he is down serve no purpose ..question is , What is Miesner purpose?
Agreed Kathryn. But remember that Sean shot Meisner to put him out of his misery when Bonaparte was torturing him
unnecessarily. I think Meisners purpose is just what he said. "You picked the wrong side" (so time to change). I hope Meisner is real because bad as he is, he is an old resistance friend of Sean's and he is on the right side ... HW.
RE: Miesner not a figment of Sean's active imagination - jsgrimm45 - 01-22-2017
Wonder when we will find out it Meisner is real and the how or is just something Sean is seeing. Once we know this we may have a better idea what his being there is doing.
RE: Miesner not a figment of Sean's active imagination - Hexenadler - 01-22-2017
Renard put a bullet in Meisner's brain. He's dead.
RE: Miesner not a figment of Sean's active imagination - FaceInTheCrowd - 01-22-2017
Unless we believe that blood, a bullet casing and a gun can appear and disappear (and it's Grimm, so who knows?), none of what Sean thought he saw in his office or cell is real. Certainly, nobody else was shown seeing it.
We'll just have to see what happens with Meisner in the bedroom. But Sean seems to be alone in that house now, so there still won't be anyone to see it besides him.
RE: Miesner not a figment of Sean's active imagination - Kathryn Wooten - 01-22-2017
(01-22-2017, 04:36 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: Unless we believe that blood, a bullet casing and a gun can appear and disappear (and it's Grimm, so who knows?), none of what Sean thought he saw in his office or cell is real. Certainly, nobody else was shown seeing it.leaving it up to Conrad..here has to be cameras- a security system?unless it was turned off??
We'll just have to see what happens with Meisner in the bedroom. But Sean seems to be alone in that house now, so there still won't be anyone to see it besides him.
RE: Miesner not a figment of Sean's active imagination - Robyn - 01-22-2017
(01-22-2017, 04:59 PM)Kathryn Wooten Wrote: leaving it up to Conrad..here has to be cameras- a security system?unless it was turned off??
I thought it strange that Bonaparte didn't have Adalind's and Kelly's suitcases searched, and her cell phone confiscated.
RE: Miesner not a figment of Sean's active imagination - jsgrimm45 - 01-22-2017
(01-22-2017, 05:27 PM)Robyn Wrote:Bonaparte had one major problem thinking he was the best thing going and could make mistakes.(01-22-2017, 04:59 PM)Kathryn Wooten Wrote: leaving it up to Conrad..here has to be cameras- a security system?unless it was turned off??
I thought it strange that Bonaparte didn't have Adalind's and Kelly's suitcases searched, and her cell phone confiscated.
RE: Miesner not a figment of Sean's active imagination - syscrash - 01-22-2017
We have seen Diana create tangible illusions. The firewood felt like wood. The baby on the bed felt like a baby. So there is precedence that and illusion can be perceived as real. So the question is who is projecting it. We now have the existence of the under world. That could be the source of the illusion. What we don't know is why the illusion.
RE: Miesner not a figment of Sean's active imagination - Kathryn Wooten - 01-23-2017
(01-22-2017, 08:31 PM)syscrash Wrote: We have seen Diana create tangible illusions. The firewood felt like wood. The baby on the bed felt like a baby. So there is precedence that and illusion can be perceived as real. So the question is who is projecting it. We now have the existence of the under world. That could be the source of the illusion. What we don't know is why the illusion.As spock would say to Captain Kirk: that is very logical theory...who and why? they are targeting a now down and out Renard..he lost , nothing left is to skimper back to his lonely office desk...why after everything hit the fan ..that "Miesner" is still existing??