(04-27-2018, 10:48 AM)Zansy Wrote: Oh let them come. If anyone attacks Rosalee we'll see how long they want to play "okay, let's look at canon". We can start at the pilot and take it from there if we must. And I'll spin in circles for her if that's needed.

And just for the record:
Juliette: Do it, Nick. Kill me. Just do it. Do it.
(4.22 Cry Havoc)

So much for accepting who she became. It's clearly not something that made her happy.

(04-27-2018, 10:55 AM)irukandji Wrote:

(04-27-2018, 09:45 AM)Zansy Wrote: Well, to be fair. The Captain of the Precinct who had a pretty good idea who Juliette was and what the situation was, was standing in that hallway, too. So let's just say. There was at least one more person around who could've potentially made that call. And at that point I'm pretty sure Renard's orders would've been followed at least as easily as Nick's?

I think they were all looking at how Nick handled the situation. He didn't seem distressed, and any cop looking at him would have saw that. Wu asked him if there was a problem, Nick told him there was not. I don't think Nick viewed it as a deadly situation.

(04-27-2018, 10:55 AM)irukandji Wrote:

(04-27-2018, 09:45 AM)Zansy Wrote: According to the Scoobies they're trying to help Juliette get back what she lost (they might still assume that she wants that? She did earlier in the season). And Nick does sound as if he's still not done hoping they might work through things if she stops being a Hexenbiest. But I'd also reckon that they realize that she's a threat (definitely to Adalind, but after torching the trailer and her earlier bar brawl, also at least potentially to others) and the Scoobies have this tendency to try to stop Wesen who're a threat to the community.

Or it could be as Nick pointed out when Juliette said she liked who she was. He responded (and I am paraphrasing here) by stating he did not.

(04-27-2018, 11:11 AM)Zansy Wrote: It probably wasn't. Because Juliette could tell that it wasn't just Nick and Adalind, it was also at least Drew, Hank and Sean. Alongside cops who may or may not have been Kehrseite, not KSK or Wesen. And she mostly seems to be interested in gathering information on a) is the pregnancy story Kenneth told her true? And b) is Nick siding with her or Adalind in this? - She's got the royals as allies at this point. Her plans go beyond killing Adalind in a public place with many witnesses and potential opponents.

(04-27-2018, 09:45 AM)Zansy Wrote: After she torched the trailer? Flung Rosalee across the room, smashed Monroe to the floor and attacked Hank? How surprising that he doesn't like what she became at that point.

(04-27-2018, 11:37 AM)irukandji Wrote: I have yet to read anything that convinces me otherwise, so let's just agree to disagree here.

(04-27-2018, 11:37 AM)irukandji Wrote: She's also stood by him in times of trouble and sacrificed her future so he could become a grimm again. Nick is no position to change anyone based on whether or not he likes them. Right?

(04-27-2018, 11:53 AM)Zansy Wrote: What exactly are we agreeing to disagree on?

Quote:It probably wasn't. Because Juliette could tell that it wasn't just Nick and Adalind, it was also at least Drew, Hank and Sean. Alongside cops who may or may not have been Kehrseite, not KSK or Wesen. And she mostly seems to be interested in gathering information on a) is the pregnancy story Kenneth told her true? And b) is Nick siding with her or Adalind in this? - She's got the royals as allies at this point. Her plans go beyond killing Adalind in a public place with many witnesses and potential opponents.

(04-27-2018, 11:53 AM)Zansy Wrote: Actually, Nick's job description as a Grimm basically says that he's supposed to take down dangerous Wesen.

(04-27-2018, 12:22 PM)irukandji Wrote:

(04-27-2018, 11:53 AM)Zansy Wrote: Actually, Nick's job description as a Grimm basically says that he's supposed to take down dangerous Wesen.

Interesting. Just where is the job description of a grimm posted?

(04-27-2018, 12:45 PM)Zansy Wrote:

(04-27-2018, 12:22 PM)irukandji Wrote:

(04-27-2018, 11:53 AM)Zansy Wrote: Actually, Nick's job description as a Grimm basically says that he's supposed to take down dangerous Wesen.

Interesting. Just where is the job description of a grimm posted?

I really am sorry, but did you watch the show? Do you think Nick's taking on dangerous Wesen because he's bored?
But just in case. Ask Grimms and their books. Ask Wesen and their children's tales on how Grimms take down Wesen. Ask the Royals. Or Black Claw. Ask Hadrian's Wall. Or the Wesen Council. There's a reason a lot of Wesen try to attack Grimms on sight and/or cringe in fear.
Of course a lot of Nick's ancestors actually did NOT bother to figure out if a) a Wesen actually poses a threat. And b) if they can be convinced to change their ways. - So perhaps we should say "updated" job description. Because Nick's ancestors would've killed/tried to kill Juliette the moment she became a Hexenbiest. You might remember that Juliette herself actually fears how Nick will react when she first finds out.
Henrietta: You haven't told the Grimm?
Juliette: No. I'm afraid to.
Henrietta: That's wise.
(Maréchausée)

(04-27-2018, 12:45 PM)Zansy Wrote:

(04-27-2018, 12:22 PM)irukandji Wrote:

(04-27-2018, 11:53 AM)Zansy Wrote: Actually, Nick's job description as a Grimm basically says that he's supposed to take down dangerous Wesen.

Interesting. Just where is the job description of a grimm posted?

I really am sorry, but did you watch the show? Do you think Nick's taking on dangerous Wesen because he's bored?
But just in case. Ask Grimms and their books. Ask Wesen and their children's tales on how Grimms take down Wesen. Ask the Royals. Or Black Claw. Ask Hadrian's Wall. Or the Wesen Council. There's a reason a lot of Wesen try to attack Grimms on sight and/or cringe in fear.
Of course a lot of Nick's ancestors actually did NOT bother to figure out if a) a Wesen actually poses a threat. And b) if they can be convinced to change their ways. - So perhaps we should say "updated" job description. Because Nick's ancestors would've killed/tried to kill Juliette the moment she became a Hexenbiest. You might remember that Juliette herself actually fears how Nick will react when she first finds out.
Henrietta: You haven't told the Grimm?
Juliette: No. I'm afraid to.
Henrietta: That's wise.
(Maréchausée)

(04-27-2018, 12:48 PM)irukandji Wrote: You're not one bit sorry. Please don't type things you don't mean.

And I don't know what Juliette and her fears have to do with the debate about the situation in the precinct being a deadly situation. Do you?

(04-27-2018, 01:11 PM)Zansy Wrote: I didn't say that I was sorry about what we are talking about. Have you never seen a statement starting with "Excuse me,...", "I'm sorry...", "Forgive me,..." before?

(04-27-2018, 01:11 PM)Zansy Wrote: We were talking about a Grimm's job description. Do you remember that?