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Spoilers: 5x06 Wesen Nacht - Gretel Hanselsister - 09-05-2015

5x06 "Wesen Nacht"

Air Date:
December 11, 2015

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Nacht is German and means night.


RE: Spoilers: 5x06 Wesen Nacht - wfmyers1207 - 09-05-2015

Ich spreche ein bisschen Duetsch. Das klingt interessant. Konnte dies der wessen Aufstand?Dodgy


RE: Spoilers: 5x06 Wesen Nacht - Gretel Hanselsister - 09-05-2015

I'm impressed! Smile
Wesen night could be a lot of things.

* perhaps some kind of revolution, as you suggest. Perhaps time for the resistance for a major strike. But then most resistance fighters are no Wesen at all, are they? Ian Harmon is Fuchsbau, but Meisner? Tavitian?

* perhaps simply party-time for Wesen?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walpurgis_Night
Halloween is a good example for a Wesen night, too.


RE: Spoilers: 5x06 Wesen Nacht - jsgrimm45 - 09-06-2015

(09-05-2015, 11:52 PM)Gretel Hanselsister Wrote: I'm impressed! Smile
Wesen night could be a lot of things.

* perhaps some kind of revolution, as you suggest. Perhaps time for the resistance for a major strike. But then most resistance fighters are no Wesen at all, are they? Ian Harmon is Fuchsbau, but Meisner? Tavitian?

* perhaps simply party-time for Wesen?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walpurgis_Night
Halloween is a good example for a Wesen night, too.
Question could the wesen resistance be a separate part having the own resistance. Was this what Renard meant when he said he understands wesen at the resistance meeting? Could the revolution be between the resistance and the wesen group of resistance? Could the wesen have their own ideas on how to deal with the royals? Would this bring in the council? We know wesen resistance used Freddie are there wesen resistance in Portland to stay out of the sight? Your point opens up many questions as least to my thinking. Thanks


RE: Spoilers: 5x06 Wesen Nacht - Silimom - 11-15-2015

The title makes me think of kristallnacht (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristallnacht), when the Nazis went on a pogrom and destroyed Jewish owned businesses and synagogues, shattering their windows.

I think that the Occultim Libera is a Pro-Wesen group who feels they are superior to humans. "Free the Hidden" could mean that these Wesen want to not only reveal themselves to the world but also want to take it over.

I wonder if the reason they took Juliette's body is that they want to study specifically what in the potion she took combined with any Grimm influences caused her to turn into an hexenbeist. If they can figure that out, they can turn anyone they want into a wesen. Imagine being able to raise an army of hexenbeists. Combine that with cracher-mortel zombies and you might have an army of hexenbeists you can control.

Anyway, it's my first time posting, so thanks for letting me share some thoughts. ?


RE: Spoilers: 5x06 Wesen Nacht - Hexenadler - 11-15-2015

(11-15-2015, 07:29 PM)Silimom Wrote: I wonder if the reason they took Juliette's body is that they want to study specifically what in the potion she took combined with any Grimm influences caused her to turn into an hexenbeist. If they can figure that out, they can turn anyone they want into a wesen. Imagine being able to raise an army of hexenbeists. Combine that with cracher-mortel zombies and you might have an army of hexenbeists you can control.

I think Black Claw is a separate faction from the Resistance (the people who actually have Juliette's body, assuming she's dead). If anything, the Resistance would be trying to turn Juliette into a weapon they could use against Black Claw.

Your idea about someone trying to recreate the sequence of events that turned Juliette into a Hexenbiest has credence, though. I'm worried they've been doing exactly that to Trubel...


RE: Spoilers: 5x06 Wesen Nacht - Dilla Deaf - 11-16-2015

(11-15-2015, 07:29 PM)Silimom Wrote: The title makes me think of kristallnacht (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristallnacht), when the Nazis went on a pogrom and destroyed Jewish owned businesses and synagogues, shattering their windows.

I think that the Occultim Libera is a Pro-Wesen group who feels they are superior to humans. "Free the Hidden" could mean that these Wesen want to not only reveal themselves to the world but also want to take it over.

I wonder if the reason they took Juliette's body is that they want to study specifically what in the potion she took combined with any Grimm influences caused her to turn into an hexenbeist. If they can figure that out, they can turn anyone they want into a wesen. Imagine being able to raise an army of hexenbeists. Combine that with cracher-mortel zombies and you might have an army of hexenbeists you can control.

Anyway, it's my first time posting, so thanks for letting me share some thoughts. ?

Your post on Kristallnacht made me think of something. For that even to happen , there would still have to be a Reichstag "fire" incident, which hasn't happen on Grimm just yet...and that would be the logical starting point to switch more people on the wesen side to OL group.

Info on Reichstag:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire


RE: Spoilers: 5x06 Wesen Nacht - wfmyers1207 - 11-16-2015

(11-16-2015, 03:21 PM)Dilla Deaf Wrote:
(11-15-2015, 07:29 PM)Silimom Wrote: The title makes me think of kristallnacht (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristallnacht), when the Nazis went on a pogrom and destroyed Jewish owned businesses and synagogues, shattering their windows.

I think that the Occultim Libera is a Pro-Wesen group who feels they are superior to humans. "Free the Hidden" could mean that these Wesen want to not only reveal themselves to the world but also want to take it over.

I wonder if the reason they took Juliette's body is that they want to study specifically what in the potion she took combined with any Grimm influences caused her to turn into an hexenbeist. If they can figure that out, they can turn anyone they want into a wesen. Imagine being able to raise an army of hexenbeists. Combine that with cracher-mortel zombies and you might have an army of hexenbeists you can control.

Anyway, it's my first time posting, so thanks for letting me share some thoughts. ?

Your post on Kristallnacht made me think of something. For that even to happen , there would still have to be a Reichstag "fire" incident, which hasn't happen on Grimm just yet...and that would be the logical starting point to switch more people on the wesen side to OL group.

Info on Reichstag:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire

Don't mean to get nit picky here. But, actually the Nazis used the assassination of a rather low level German diplomat stationed in Paris, by a Jewish German as the excuse for Kristallknacht in 1936. The Reichstag fire incident was used as the excuse to grant Hitler martial law authority in 1934.


RE: Spoilers: 5x06 Wesen Nacht - Dilla Deaf - 11-16-2015

(11-16-2015, 03:41 PM)wfmyers1207 Wrote:
(11-16-2015, 03:21 PM)Dilla Deaf Wrote:
(11-15-2015, 07:29 PM)Silimom Wrote: The title makes me think of kristallnacht (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristallnacht), when the Nazis went on a pogrom and destroyed Jewish owned businesses and synagogues, shattering their windows.

I think that the Occultim Libera is a Pro-Wesen group who feels they are superior to humans. "Free the Hidden" could mean that these Wesen want to not only reveal themselves to the world but also want to take it over.

I wonder if the reason they took Juliette's body is that they want to study specifically what in the potion she took combined with any Grimm influences caused her to turn into an hexenbeist. If they can figure that out, they can turn anyone they want into a wesen. Imagine being able to raise an army of hexenbeists. Combine that with cracher-mortel zombies and you might have an army of hexenbeists you can control.

Anyway, it's my first time posting, so thanks for letting me share some thoughts. ?

Your post on Kristallnacht made me think of something. For that even to happen , there would still have to be a Reichstag "fire" incident, which hasn't happen on Grimm just yet...and that would be the logical starting point to switch more people on the wesen side to OL group.

Info on Reichstag:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire

Don't mean to get nit picky here. But, actually the Nazis used the assassination of a rather low level German diplomat stationed in Paris, by a Jewish German as the excuse for Kristallknacht in 1936. The Reichstag fire incident was used as the excuse to grant Hitler martial law authority in 1934.

Either way (the assassination or Reichstag) works for me in the big scheme of the story. They both fit if you think about it.


RE: Spoilers: 5x06 Wesen Nacht - wfmyers1207 - 11-16-2015

(11-16-2015, 03:54 PM)Dilla Deaf Wrote:
(11-16-2015, 03:41 PM)wfmyers1207 Wrote:
(11-16-2015, 03:21 PM)Dilla Deaf Wrote:
(11-15-2015, 07:29 PM)Silimom Wrote: The title makes me think of kristallnacht (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristallnacht), when the Nazis went on a pogrom and destroyed Jewish owned businesses and synagogues, shattering their windows.

I think that the Occultim Libera is a Pro-Wesen group who feels they are superior to humans. "Free the Hidden" could mean that these Wesen want to not only reveal themselves to the world but also want to take it over.

I wonder if the reason they took Juliette's body is that they want to study specifically what in the potion she took combined with any Grimm influences caused her to turn into an hexenbeist. If they can figure that out, they can turn anyone they want into a wesen. Imagine being able to raise an army of hexenbeists. Combine that with cracher-mortel zombies and you might have an army of hexenbeists you can control.

Anyway, it's my first time posting, so thanks for letting me share some thoughts. ?

Your post on Kristallnacht made me think of something. For that even to happen , there would still have to be a Reichstag "fire" incident, which hasn't happen on Grimm just yet...and that would be the logical starting point to switch more people on the wesen side to OL group.

Info on Reichstag:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire

Don't mean to get nit picky here. But, actually the Nazis used the assassination of a rather low level German diplomat stationed in Paris, by a Jewish German as the excuse for Kristallknacht in 1936. The Reichstag fire incident was used as the excuse to grant Hitler martial law authority in 1934.

Either way (the assassination or Reichstag) works for me in the big scheme of the story. They both fit if you think about it.

True enough. Both incidents were simply used as excuses to seize more power and inflict more harm upon their "enemies". What assholes!!Angry