(09-25-2014, 03:14 PM)Christian Killian Wrote: [ -> ]***SPOILERS***
Just re-watched "Blonde Ambition" yet again. While I enjoy the actress for the most part, she makes some choices and comments that just drive me up the wall. When Nick slept with Juliette(but not her, her) and real Juliette finds out about it, getting upset at Nick. Now...riddle me this: Why is Juliette upset with Nick for basically him getting raped? That is what it was really. I am a big fan of the Farscape series and in season 3 the main character was basically raped and in season four (and the end movie) it really made him mad. But the important thing: the leading female (who the leading male had a relationship with the leading male) didn't ever blame the lead male. This has got to be one of the most messed up things in TV writing ever. That the sexual assault victim gets blamed by the woman he loves. I so want the character gone.
X 2 on putting the blame on Nick. Dolp.
Juliette needs to go. The writers may have wanted to make her more exciting, more Nick's match in power, but they have jumped the shark with the integrity of the character. The Juliette we have been watching for 5 seasons was capable of snap judgments and of an emotional 180, but wasn't so bereft of conscience that she could do a moral 180 of this magnitude. The storyline had great promise, but they took her character too far too quickly. It would have been more interesting to watch her wrestle with compassion nature vs. raw power. I could even see her slide into the dark side of being a hexenbiest step by juicy, seductive step. It would also be more interesting to watch Nick choose to learn to love SuperHexen and work through his own prejudices. He's been the psychopomp introducing all the others to the Wesen world, what happens when he needs to find that soul balance for himself (without relying on Juliette to supply it)? The only reason I can think of that they decided to run this arc like the core of Juliette's character doesn't exist anymore is that they intend to kill her off at the end of S5. At this point, I would not be bothered to lose her.
I wonder why so many do not see the beauty in the new Juliette character. She went from being a follower to a leader. She went from poor me I am a victim again to being a master of her destiny. She provides concise reasons for why she is accepting being a hexenbiest. Instead of her reason being some egotistical plan or a need for greed. She explains it is the feeling of being impowered. We watched her lose her passive personality and replace it with an in your face, brash personality. Nick reputation of being feared was established by his ancestors. In a short time Juliette has established her position of dominance on her own. Where she use to want to compromise and work with others. Now it is her way or she will squash you.
When Juliette told Kenneth it would be ashame to have a dead Royal in Portland, and Kenneth did not respond with indignation for being disrespected. That was amazing. When Nick in his authoritative way demands at gunpoint that Juliette should comply. She basically responded with an FU. Let him know he controls nothing and to prove it made Nick shoot at Monroe. What better way to let Nick know she is superior to him. Kenneth asked her did she want to be a queen and she is. From here on in Nick will need to ask Juliette instead of telling Juliette.
i dont like her and would gladly see her leave the series
(05-02-2015, 09:03 PM)MatançaZumbido Wrote: [ -> ]WHY JULIETTE MUST DIE
1. I just watched Julliette throw Rosalee and Monroe (Nick's Best Friends) around using her Hexenbiest powers.
2. She made Nick turn his gun on Hank (Nick's Partner) and if he ends up shooting him move this up to number one.
3. She attacked innocent people using her powers.
4. She burned up most of Nick's Grimm hunter shack full of priceless family heirlooms.
5. Slept with Nick's boss.
6. Gave the bad guys information and is cozying up to the one guy.
7. Made a scene at a Police station in front of other officers.
8. Julliette almost had Nick convinced not to be a Grimm while Nick had lost his powers.
9. Turned down Nick's marriage proposal and was pretty lame during the whole amnesia sequence.
10. I didn't know why at first but I didn't like the show that much. I know why now. It's Juliette (Bitsie Tulloch). She is a really bad actress. In fact she doesn't even play a villain very well. I don't even like watching her. She brings the whole show down and is holding it back.
Nick is a couple points up on the looks scale and has become a pretty likable character. Adalind (Claire Coffee) now a suppressed hexenbiest or Trubel (Theresa Rubel) would be MUCH hotter woman for Nick. Although Trubel does give off a more of a friend vibe in the story line so far.
SO,
JULIETTE MUST DIE.
Start preparing her severance package. I don't know how much longer I can continue watching episodes with her in it.
I am not sure the best way to kill her off. But I'm sure the writers can think of some creative ways.
Hi MatançaZumbido,
Thanks for posting your list “WHY JULIETTE MUST DIE.” Maybe not die, but have Rosalee cook up a potion that 1. makes her appearance permanently hexenbiest, and 2. removes her powers leaving her human. That way she gets her wish to be a hexenbiest and her former friends are safe from her homicidal rants. When she sees her real self, maybe you and the “kill Juliette fans” will get your wish; by her own hand. Problem solved, but fat chance.
Regarding your item 5 and the episode 21 promo, my comment elsewhere on this forum about Juliette’s sexual depravity was not well received. Your item 9 seems to support my comment about her depravity. Nick and Juliette told each other they were in love and were nearly engaged to marry. Sexual fidelity is fundamental in such a situation. She violated Nicks trust. Juliette and Renard didn’t share an innocent nap time, in episode 17 she willfully initiated what was likely lurid fornication. No love there.
The synopsis reads “As Nick sits at home alone and turns photos of him and Juliette face down, his former love sneaks up on a bloodied Renard in his bedroom demanding to know where Adalind is. Still reeling from his fight with Kenneth, Renard relents and gives her the name of the hotel where Adalind is staying. Having gotten what she came for, Juliette begins unbuttoning her top. Renard hesitates, but after Juliette promises this will hurt, he gives in and kisses her.”
What if Renard had a surveillance camera in the room, Wu hacked the video and showed it to Nick. Better yet, Nick walks in on the Kenneth & Juliette’s sex party in episode 21. He (Nick) needs to open his eyes and see that Juliette has destroyed the most significant relationship in his life. Dump her!
Bottom line; the writers need to resolve the Juliette problem. She is a licentious, homicidal hexebiest beyond redemption. I became a Grimm fan because Nick and crew (good guys) took out each evil Wessen, usually in one episode and saved the day. Juliette is the epitome of evil. Get her off the show before she kills the entire rest of the cast.
(05-06-2015, 07:05 PM)syscrash Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder why so many do not see the beauty in the new Juliette character. She went from being a follower to a leader. She went from poor me I am a victim again to being a master of her destiny. She provides concise reasons for why she is accepting being a hexenbiest. Instead of her reason being some egotistical plan or a need for greed. She explains it is the feeling of being impowered. We watched her lose her passive personality and replace it with an in your face, brash personality. Nick reputation of being feared was established by his ancestors. In a short time Juliette has established her position of dominance on her own. Where she use to want to compromise and work with others. Now it is her way or she will squash you.
When Juliette told Kenneth it would be ashame to have a dead Royal in Portland, and Kenneth did not respond with indignation for being disrespected. That was amazing. When Nick in his authoritative way demands at gunpoint that Juliette should comply. She basically responded with an FU. Let him know he controls nothing and to prove it made Nick shoot at Monroe. What better way to let Nick know she is superior to him. Kenneth asked her did she want to be a queen and she is. From here on in Nick will need to ask Juliette instead of telling Juliette.
The "beauty" of the new Juliette?? If you think becoming a homicidal, power crazy slut is beautiful then you must think Charles Manson is a real rock star.
Hello everyone......I am new here, just joined. Not sure where to start. ! Love Grimm, great show but this season has been the BEST. I am torn about how I feel about Juliette but I believe she's gone to the dark side, never to return.
(05-06-2015, 05:35 PM)Liederbiest Wrote: [ -> ]Juliette needs to go. The writers may have wanted to make her more exciting, more Nick's match in power, but they have jumped the shark with the integrity of the character. The Juliette we have been watching for 5 seasons was capable of snap judgments and of an emotional 180, but wasn't so bereft of conscience that she could do a moral 180 of this magnitude. The storyline had great promise, but they took her character too far too quickly. It would have been more interesting to watch her wrestle with compassion nature vs. raw power. I could even see her slide into the dark side of being a hexenbiest step by juicy, seductive step. It would also be more interesting to watch Nick choose to learn to love SuperHexen and work through his own prejudices. He's been the psychopomp introducing all the others to the Wesen world, what happens when he needs to find that soul balance for himself (without relying on Juliette to supply it)? The only reason I can think of that they decided to run this arc like the core of Juliette's character doesn't exist anymore is that they intend to kill her off at the end of S5. At this point, I would not be bothered to lose her.
I think either Nick's mom will die or Aldine's baby will die--you can here Nick screaming in pure horror and rage at tomorrow's preview--if that happens, would Juliette come to her senses and realize she has chosen a very dark path?
I don't have a problem with Juliette's new sexual proclivities. I don't consider her sexually depraved. She's got the appetite of a hexenbiest. Everything we've seen about hexens and zaubers indicates they are hedonistic lovers with a salt shaker of SM thrown in. It's a part of the background of this show, and a Wesen trait that could well be a turn-off for Nick if he was ever allowed the choice of experiencing it. If so, their relationship would be toast even if Juliette wasn't jumping her moral compass shark.
A previous poster said that Juliette was clear as to why she was done, and that her feeling of empowerment should be a huge point in the character's favor, especially from all the passive Juliette detractors. Here's my counterpoint: I do not see Juliette's empowerment. I see her being controlled by her powers, allowing herself to be manipulated by the new situation into actions that violate the integrity of her character. Can a psychotic break be truly empowering?
(05-07-2015, 10:00 AM)wfmyers1207 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-06-2015, 07:05 PM)syscrash Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder why so many do not see the beauty in the new Juliette character. She went from being a follower to a leader. She went from poor me I am a victim again to being a master of her destiny. She provides concise reasons for why she is accepting being a hexenbiest. Instead of her reason being some egotistical plan or a need for greed. She explains it is the feeling of being impowered. We watched her lose her passive personality and replace it with an in your face, brash personality. Nick reputation of being feared was established by his ancestors. In a short time Juliette has established her position of dominance on her own. Where she use to want to compromise and work with others. Now it is her way or she will squash you.
When Juliette told Kenneth it would be ashame to have a dead Royal in Portland, and Kenneth did not respond with indignation for being disrespected. That was amazing. When Nick in his authoritative way demands at gunpoint that Juliette should comply. She basically responded with an FU. Let him know he controls nothing and to prove it made Nick shoot at Monroe. What better way to let Nick know she is superior to him. Kenneth asked her did she want to be a queen and she is. From here on in Nick will need to ask Juliette instead of telling Juliette.
The "beauty" of the new Juliette?? If you think becoming a homicidal, power crazy slut is beautiful then you must think Charles Manson is a real rock star.
I can't even begin to compare the imaginary Juliette to real horror Charles Manson. But that aside, while I don't see the beauty of Juliette's character, I do find the change in her very interesting and at this point I don't think she should be booted off the show.
Actually, the character I see as somewhat homicidal and often above the law is Nick himself.
(05-07-2015, 11:00 AM)Liederbiest Wrote: [ -> ]I don't have a problem with Juliette's new sexual proclivities. I don't consider her sexually depraved. She's got the appetite of a hexenbiest. Everything we've seen about hexens and zaubers indicates they are hedonistic lovers with a salt shaker of SM thrown in. It's a part of the background of this show, and a Wesen trait that could well be a turn-off for Nick if he was ever allowed the choice of experiencing it. If so, their relationship would be toast even if Juliette wasn't jumping her moral compass shark.
A previous poster said that Juliette was clear as to why she was done, and that her feeling of empowerment should be a huge point in the character's favor, especially from all the passive Juliette detractors. Here's my counterpoint: I do not see Juliette's empowerment. I see her being controlled by her powers, allowing herself to be manipulated by the new situation into actions that violate the integrity of her character. Can a psychotic break be truly empowering?
Lets remember when Juliette hooked up with Sean she had moved out and broke it off with Nick. The most Juliette could be accused of is having rebound sex.
That she is having rebound sex which is something the old Juliette would not do. Does not mean she has a problem. Because she has a different personality does not mean she is violating the integrity of her character. It is a different character. It would be no difference then someone that just had a complete plastic makeover, complete with implants. Their personality would be a lot difference. Where they may have be a shy introvert. After the work they may become a very outgoing sexually active extrovert. That would not make them psychotic.
Even Juliette joining the Royals does not mean she is losing her mind. She has just changed her priorities and views on what she finds important. If changing her views makes her psychotic, then the same could be said for someone that goes from conservative to liberal or liberal to conservative.