02-18-2015, 02:54 PM
When Nick first became a Grimm, when he meet a wesen he could see them straight away, now they don't show to him straight away.
02-18-2015, 02:54 PM
When Nick first became a Grimm, when he meet a wesen he could see them straight away, now they don't show to him straight away.
02-18-2015, 03:05 PM
(02-18-2015, 02:54 PM)spiritse Wrote: When Nick first became a Grimm, when he meet a wesen he could see them straight away, now they don't show to him straight away. It's all about the story line. Nick has only ever been able to see Wesen when they partially or fully woge. Everyone can see them when they fully woge so a Grimm's talent is in the partial woge, when Wesen don't choose to show their full selves but let a bit of their inner beast out. I think of wogeing as losing a bit of control or breaking Wesen sweat so to speak. Some Wesen have more control, are steady under pressure and can control their woges (think Renard, Elizabeth, the Excandesco, Chavez, etc.) and some like Eisbiebers and Seelenguts woge if you even look at them funny. It all depends on the Wesen and the circumstances in which the writers put Nick. Nick has nothing to see unless they at least partially woge, and I've seen nothing since the Pilot that contradicts that unless you count the few episodes where he temporarily lost his Grimmness.
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02-18-2015, 03:45 PM
(02-18-2015, 02:54 PM)spiritse Wrote: When Nick first became a Grimm, when he meet a wesen he could see them straight away, now they don't show to him straight away. Are you referring to when Nick sees ADalind for the first time. In my opinion Nick saw Adalind because she wanted him to. As she walked by she made a point to turn her head and woge as she walked by Nick. I take it as her way of saying I know you are a Grimm come and get me.
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02-18-2015, 04:57 PM
(02-18-2015, 03:45 PM)syscrash Wrote:(02-18-2015, 02:54 PM)spiritse Wrote: When Nick first became a Grimm, when he meet a wesen he could see them straight away, now they don't show to him straight away. There are a number of things that happen or are said in the Pilot that don't quite match up with things that happen or are said later in the season. The Adalind reveal is a good example of one. You can chalk it up to something in the Grimm transformation process or that the writers were still getting their "mythology" straightened out.
02-18-2015, 09:11 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-18-2015, 09:25 PM by Samsarilian.)
(02-18-2015, 04:57 PM)Lou Wrote:(02-18-2015, 03:45 PM)syscrash Wrote:(02-18-2015, 02:54 PM)spiritse Wrote: When Nick first became a Grimm, when he meet a wesen he could see them straight away, now they don't show to him straight away. Adalind is the one character I have never liked. I will leave it at you are not supposed to like her and the actress is doing her job. So defending it here seems strange to me but here goes. You do not know what she was talking about just before she walked away. Her woge does not really have to have anything to do with Nick. It could be an emotional reaction to her previous conversation or merely a passing thought about an upcoming case. Nick sees them when they are stressed. Stress is not always caused by what is physically present. Her facial expression after she did it, to me, said "Oh, shit, that was a mistake." At the very least it was indicative the she thought he saw something he should not have, or that bothered her. Maybe Reynard knew that Nick had the potential and had several wesen that tested Nick on a regular basis and this was the first time one of them had seen the "Grimm eyes" that tell them the person is a grimm. If so her thoughts must have been something like, "of all the rotten luck. Why me? He is my mortal enemy and now he will instinctively want to kill me." There are all kinds of explinations that could go here but all would be as much speculation as the last two and I do not think that the writers want to plug a 4 year old hole that we have all ignored or came up with private solutions to.
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02-18-2015, 10:18 PM
I based my idea that the woge was for Nick. Because all other times when Adalind wants to be real cocky. She does the woge with her head sideways and the look like. Yea I'am bad. Plus we knew from the show that SEan had already put ADalind on the job of getting the keys from Mari and Nick. Plus Adalind does not woge when scared our upset. example when Kelly brought her to Nicks house. Real big surprise no woge.
No yes it was the pilot and the woge may have been the writer way of introducing Nick to the woge. But then why not use a none descript wesen.
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02-18-2015, 11:04 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-18-2015, 11:05 PM by Samsarilian.)
(02-18-2015, 10:18 PM)syscrash Wrote: I based my idea that the woge was for Nick. Because all other times when Adalind wants to be real cocky. She does the woge with her head sideways and the look like. Yea I'am bad. Plus we knew from the show that SEan had already put ADalind on the job of getting the keys from Mari and Nick. Plus Adalind does not woge when scared our upset. example when Kelly brought her to Nicks house. Real big surprise no woge. My ideas were just chosen to show that there may be any number of reasons. My final point of the writers being unlikely to clear up or try to close this hole was my main point. I was trying to say we will never know because they will not give us an 'official' explination.
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02-18-2015, 11:34 PM
Seems to be with most Wesen since the last series, he just seems to be a lot slower picking up on the fact they are Wesen.
a good example is in early episodes, nick confronted them and they changed to him straight away, now he seems to get into a fight with them before they even realize he is a Grimm. the story line did say, when a Wesen looks into a grimm's eye's they are like staring at death itself, but I have noticed a lot look at Nick and no change. I suppose as Nicks defense he might try to hide the fact he is a Grimm and it only works when he stares at them in a certain way.
02-18-2015, 11:52 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-18-2015, 11:54 PM by Samsarilian.)
(02-18-2015, 11:34 PM)spiritse Wrote: Seems to be with most Wesen since the last series, he just seems to be a lot slower picking up on the fact they are Wesen. They only see his eyes like that if they look at him while woged to some degree. That was established in season 3 during Nick's best man debate.
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02-18-2015, 11:56 PM
It seems that Nick only plays the Grimm card as the last option. Trubel plays it from the beginning. As for Nicks eyes. Monroe says it is like looking into the depths of your soul. Rosalee describes it is unsettling. It my be that you see what you really are. The same type of wesen could see different things depending on how they live their lives.
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