(08-30-2017, 11:39 PM)wesen Wrote:These days, most fictional work on film or tv is riddled with cliches or tropes, not even GoT was immune to this since they ran out of books to adapt. It wouldn't be that way if people didn't readily respond to that type of writing. There's nothing wrong with Nick and Adalind being written that way, at the very least there was some complexity in them getting together. It wasn't easy or something that happened overnight. People will either accept what put in front of them or reject it.(08-30-2017, 07:15 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: It's a TV and movie cliche for a man and a woman forced by circumstances to live, work or otherwise have to depend on each other to eventually fall in love no matter how much they dislike each other at first. In movies, their romance usually ends sometime before the sequel; on TV, if the ratings drop precipitously after they get together. Nickalind was pretty much inevitable the moment Nick brought Adalind and Kelly to the fome because he thought they were in enough danger to have to live in a secret base.
It might be cliche but if it works then I don't see why it should be a problem. My topic wasn't about the use of cliches or not, it was more to do with why the characters of Nick and Adalind worked 'clicked' together more than juliette and Nick did. Nadalind was more popular with the viewers than juliette and Nick, so it's no surprise that the writers chose to go with them as end game.
I happen to agree with a lot of your assessment of them as a couple. Yes they certainly clicked, better than Nick and Juliette ever did. during S5 and S6 Nick is in a different place with Adalind than he was with Juliette. He is unsettled, unsure but intensely drawn to Adalind beyond just settling for the woman that was just within reach compared to Juliette, where he was settled and comfortable but things fell apart no matter all his efforts to hold on to what they had, he still drifted apart from her (unintentionally). At the end of the show, Nick is certain that Adalind was the one he wanted/loved. He still loved Eve/Juliette but that love had transformed to a different kind of love, one based on friendship instead of a love between a man and a woman. He was in love with Adalind and the world was possibly ending so he told her he loved her before going after Zerstörer. The confession of his feelings may seem out of place or too little too late to some but Adalind's initial confession of her own feelings was under similar strenuous conditions. These two played everything close to the chest until forced to embrace the reality of their situation. She was afraid he would never return and thus wanted him to know how she felt and he did the exact same thing.
I was drawn to them as a couple because of the challenge of what being together meant to them at the end of the day. logic says they should have hated one another till the end of time, Having Kelly should never have changed that. You only have to look at Adalind and Renard's relationship to see that it was more than possible for Adalind to remain indifferent towards the man she hated and regarded as an enemy for a very long time. And Nick was no different but even more so, despite his physical attraction to her, for several seasons we've never seen him succumb to his baser nature as a man and as a Grimm, that additional nature should have prevented him pursuing a relationship not only with an enemy but one who was a hexenbiest, the ultimate arch nemesis who cared that they shared a son?
With Juliette, I could never get into them because I felt that the relationship was being broken down (not strengthened) whereas Nick and Adalind were being built up. I was more invested in watching them make their relationship work rather than slog through the ever disintegrating relationship of Nick and Juliette that became too battered once Juliette's resentment and bitterness towards Nick's Grimm (before she went crazy on hexenbiest) I was desperate for the writers to end them and put me out of my misery. I felt like four whole years were wasted on a doomed relationship that added nothing to the lore of the show.