03-16-2017, 07:15 PM
If Eve and everybody else who knew her as Juliette stop caring about the fact that she ever was Juliette, that'd be closure.
03-16-2017, 07:15 PM
If Eve and everybody else who knew her as Juliette stop caring about the fact that she ever was Juliette, that'd be closure.
03-16-2017, 10:26 PM
I see closure is Nick and the rest accepting Eve has accepted who she is. Instead of being Juliette was taken from her. Even now they still have the since of guilt for what she lost. The group is like a lot of people on this forum. They still do not accept that Juliette is dead and gone. This idea that their are signs of humanity is seen as a return of Juliette. I think this episode will put and end to that. For once and for all it will be made definitive what was Juliette, what made her Juliette is forever gone. That and she no longer regrets it. she is content with what she is.
Embrace your inner Biest..... We all have one
so i get it now, juliette is forever a bad person who tried killing em and is dead and buried , while eve is a new and formed person, "not reformed" and is good, not kill em. so the closure is a one sided affair the gang alone,so what's the point of having adalind apologising cos it looks like kind of redundant.
03-17-2017, 05:31 AM
(03-17-2017, 01:52 AM)degrimm Wrote: so i get it now, juliette is forever a bad person who tried killing em and is dead and buried , while eve is a new and formed person, "not reformed" and is good, not kill em. so the closure is a one sided affair the gang alone,so what's the point of having adalind apologising cos it looks like kind of redundant. Redundant? What makes Adalind's apology redundant I think she felt it was needed so they knew she was truly sorry so it's not redundant because it was necessary to her, and probably everyone, that's all that matters, and yes I believe Juliette is a bad person until she can admit her part in this whole scenario but we have argued this forever and have never come to a mutual conclusion on this forum and probably never will
03-17-2017, 07:01 AM
(03-17-2017, 01:52 AM)degrimm Wrote: so i get it now, juliette is forever a bad person who tried killing em and is dead and buried , while eve is a new and formed person, "not reformed" and is good, not kill em. so the closure is a one sided affair the gang alone,so what's the point of having adalind apologising cos it looks like kind of redundant. Not redundant, since Adalind never did it before, but as far as Eve was concerned, irrelevant because Juliette was a different person so Adalind didn't do anything to her. The point of Adalind doing that was that she still didn't fully accept that Eve wasn't Juliette anymore. And her saying that Eve is looking for redemption means she still hasn't. I think the preview exchange between Eve and Nick is her telling Nick that she's not there to kill the green eyed skull guy threat because she's Juliette looking for redemption or closure but because she's Eve, and killing threats is just what she does now.
03-17-2017, 07:01 AM
(03-17-2017, 05:31 AM)Kwu9888 Wrote:(03-17-2017, 01:52 AM)degrimm Wrote: so i get it now, juliette is forever a bad person who tried killing em and is dead and buried , while eve is a new and formed person, "not reformed" and is good, not kill em. so the closure is a one sided affair the gang alone,so what's the point of having adalind apologising cos it looks like kind of redundant. for an apology that isn't to the actual person she had offended, how is it useful or how does it makes sense, so really??, she feels if she say sorry to a caricature of juliette or whatever it is, it will make sense or likely lift a burden(whether there's one or not) off her. to you juliette was a bad person cos she was preventing nick from hooking up adalind. there are no other reasons to it, the kelly death was just the side show for you to hate her more or scar her. But one thing that will never change is the root of all problems started with same person adalind, that will forever not change regardless of her claim to be naive or ignorant as we all know.
03-17-2017, 07:05 AM
(03-17-2017, 07:01 AM)degrimm Wrote:(03-17-2017, 05:31 AM)Kwu9888 Wrote:(03-17-2017, 01:52 AM)degrimm Wrote: so i get it now, juliette is forever a bad person who tried killing em and is dead and buried , while eve is a new and formed person, "not reformed" and is good, not kill em. so the closure is a one sided affair the gang alone,so what's the point of having adalind apologising cos it looks like kind of redundant. Sean Renard was controlling much of the problems behind scenes right from the beginning and he does not get blame for what he did.
Women characters do not have to be having sex with the lead to be important to the story.
03-17-2017, 07:20 AM
Sean is behind 80% of Adalind's actions but only she gets the blame.
(03-17-2017, 07:05 AM)MarylikesGrimm Wrote:(03-17-2017, 07:01 AM)degrimm Wrote:(03-17-2017, 05:31 AM)Kwu9888 Wrote:(03-17-2017, 01:52 AM)degrimm Wrote: so i get it now, juliette is forever a bad person who tried killing em and is dead and buried , while eve is a new and formed person, "not reformed" and is good, not kill em. so the closure is a one sided affair the gang alone,so what's the point of having adalind apologising cos it looks like kind of redundant. i'm not saying sean renard doesn't get a blame to the problems, he definitely does but sean even said she had a mind of her own. But that's not my point, my point is they should not use naivety or ignorance to justify her actions as she is a grown ass woman who has a mind of her own, as it doesnt read such and @Kwu9888 who is using the kelly death to hide behind her hatred for juliette for being btw adalind and nick (03-17-2017, 07:20 AM)rpmaluki Wrote: Sean is behind 80% of Adalind's actions but only she gets the blame. sean isnt the one that made her degrimm nick and cause a rift btw nick and juliette. No matter how they make nick believe adalind gave them a choice, adalind was forever tied to nick due to the spell she did
03-17-2017, 07:32 AM
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(03-17-2017, 07:22 AM)degrimm Wrote: sean isnt the one that made her degrimm nick and cause a rift btw nick and juliette. No matter how they make nick believe adalind gave them a choice, adalind was forever tied to nick due to the spell she did Sean is the one who told the scoobies to lie to Adalind and tell her the baby was with the royals while they let the royal believe the resistance had the baby. Sean said the royals would not talk to Adalind. Sean told Juliette her idea to kill Adalind was a good one and gave her Adalind's address. Ken found out about Juliette and her angry at Nick and Adalind because she did try to kill Adalind. If that did not happen then adult Kelly mostly likely would have not died.
Women characters do not have to be having sex with the lead to be important to the story.
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