(01-09-2017, 07:54 AM)speakeasy Wrote: Plus there's an irony in the fact that Juliette lost her chance at being a mother and having a normal life, and that Adalind's journey seems to have begun at the point at which J's ends; starting out as an evil doer and ending up with being a mother who is beloved by Nick (so far). No reflection on Adalind, I've always loved the character. Just a demonstration that life isn't fair, more like a crap shoot. Of course, the fly in the soup is Diana.
Intriguing idea that the Crusade Grimms may have combined their power somehow into the stick.
(01-09-2017, 08:37 AM)MarylikesGrimm Wrote: Eve/Juliette was a good person in season 5. Eve/Juliette is still the independent and strong women. Juliette was a vet and wanted to live with Nick but smartly never agreed to have a "normal" life with him if he wanted to be a grimm. Juliette never discusses having children with Nick yet it is assumed for her that she would want them. Adalind who says over and over she wants she wants her daughter and keeps the baby of her kidnapper and agrees to works with Nick to raise Kelly is still questioned on whether she wants to be mom.
Women should be able to choose to be a mom or not and not have everyone assume they want them. Once Nick was a grimm the only way Juliette was to have a "normal" life was to leave Nick. As an example, Nick's human father was killed for being married to a grimm and Juliette was kidnapped early in the show.
Can't disagree with anything you say, other than to add that Juliette wasn't given that chance as a result of outside interference (some of which she went along with willingly even though she didn't know the consequences.) My point is that she wasn't given the choice, even if she would have made the same decision. Imo, every single female on the show is strong and independent - but I've seen a number of differing opinions about that posted here. Girls rule. And because of that we've effectively changed the conventional role of the female in our society; the expectations of societal norms were different in my day.
(01-09-2017, 08:37 AM)Grimmbiest11 Wrote: What Kouf and Greenwalt had to say about this 'stick'
Greenwalt:... what the stick means and it means a lot religiously, Biblically, mythically in every tradition in every square of the planet. It'll all be explained and answered to tremendous satisfaction, of us, but hopefully of others.
If that's a direct quote, then the stick will have an archetypal universal meaning, whether it be religious, Biblical, or mythical, in significance. Guess it's meaning will be found in the belief system of the beholder, but all human attempts to explain man's nature converge into a central theme of good vs. evil - going back to the earliest myths in recorded history. For me, that translates into a triumph of good over evil. I am hoping all fans can find some closure that aligns with their individual notions of morality in the end of the series. I'll be crushed if Renard is on the wrong team.
"The only thing that will redeem mankind is cooperation." Bertrand Russell - printed on a beer mat in "Shaun of The Dead".