You're right, Adriano. I missed your point. I'm sorry about that. Thanks for the clarification.
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08-31-2016, 11:58 AM
In Grimm it isn't so much that the legal system is untrustworthy as it is that it's not designed to deal with the reality of a world populated by wesen and scheming royal families.
In Nick's case, his first teacher in his new role as a Grimm was Monroe, who taught him that there were situations he had to handle as a Grimm rather than as a cop. Then he discovered that his captain, the person who was supposed to be guiding his work as a cop, was a wesen who was also working "off the books." Then, to top it off, he learned that the US government knew about wesen, and rather than assign the FBI or some other official security agency to deal with wesen problems, created the black op called Hadrian's Wall. Which means that, ironically, what Nick has been doing on his own is exactly what "the system" was already doing: eliminating dangerous wesen and concealing their existence from an unknowing citizenry.
08-31-2016, 12:12 PM
Isn't the issue that the legal system isn't designed to deal with the reality of a world populated by wesen a fault of the writers?
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08-31-2016, 12:40 PM
Quote:Isn't the issue that the legal system isn't designed to deal with the reality of a world populated by wesen a fault of the writers? You can not design a system for something that defy the laws of physics. unless they are woged when samples are taken. The forensics would not match. So you would have to create something that forces them to woge so you could get a sample. That would be a violation of their civil rights. That would be equal to forcing someone to under go surgery to find evidence that they swallowed. Under our system you can not force someone to have a bullet removed so you can do ballistics. Example how would you ever prove a hexenbiest snapped someone neck with their mind. In Diana case how would you ever right any kind of rule you could use to prove Diana killed Rachel.
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(08-31-2016, 12:40 PM)syscrash Wrote:Quote:Isn't the issue that the legal system isn't designed to deal with the reality of a world populated by wesen a fault of the writers? Who says wesen woge every time they commit a crime? In most cases, they only woge at Nick because they realize he's a Grimm. It's an interesting question you raise with regard to DNA. DNA has had to be taken on wesen, long before Nick became a Grimm. How do you suppose it was explained? (08-30-2016, 03:23 PM)izzy Wrote: Interesting you should mention this. I just completed my summer training camp for LEOs, and Grimm and Nick were a constant topic around the campfire at night when we were BSing about. I find this really fascinating that the LEOs were discussing Grimm. Are a lot of them fans of the show or were some referred to it by the comments of others?
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08-31-2016, 01:07 PM
The system was designed without knowledge of the Wesen world(maybe some Wesen in the system helped to manipulate it to their liking knowing this show). They couldn't design it for something they couldn't even fathom.
Hank and Wu were completely oblivious and wouldn't have been able to adapt to this new world if not for Nick. They both thought they were on the brink of insanity before settling in. Juliette was Nick's long-tlme girlfriend and thought he was crazy when he tried to explain what he is in the season one finale. Monroe has been explicit about how the human mind would have a meltdown when confronted with the truth. These are the people closest to Nick and the odd things that happened when he's around and they were initially unprepared to face this new reality. Imagine what it's like for people who have no clue about the actual reality. The unique ability of Wesen would allow them to get away with numerous crimes. This is the reason Rosalee recruited the help of Nick, Hank, and Monroe while she was on jury duty. She knew everyone on the jury was being manipulated and would let a clearly guilty man walk free if things played out normally. He only got convicted because of Rosalee's knowledge of the Wesen world.
08-31-2016, 01:38 PM
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S05 showed us that there actually was a system designed with knowledge of the wesen world. From the top down, it worked like this:
1. Create black op HW to deal covertly with wesen problems. 2. Do not reveal anything to state or local authorities. 3. As local LEOs appear to learn about wesen, recruit them into HW. Based on the amount of intel HW had about BC, it's likely that they had been in operation for a fairly long time and not just since S04.
08-31-2016, 01:58 PM
Quote:Who says wesen woge every time they commit a crime? In most cases, they only woge at Nick because they realize he's a Grimm. It's an interesting question you raise with regard to DNA. DNA has had to be taken on wesen, long before Nick became a Grimm. How do you suppose it was explained?For them to identify that the crime was wesen meant the victim had abnormal wounds. Wesen have to woge to crate the wounds. That is the problem Nick could not explain the wounds without bringing up they where woged at the time.
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(08-31-2016, 01:00 PM)irukandji Wrote: I find this really fascinating that the LEOs were discussing Grimm. Are a lot of them fans of the show or were some referred to it by the comments of others? Greetings JellyFish. I mentioned this in past posts, but I know a lot of cops and to some extent socialize with them. The first few seasons the would laugh and joke about Nick and Hank's total disregard for probable cause, hot pursuit, breaking and entering and violations, search ands seizure, civil rights etc. The boyish comments were I wish I was Nick I could just go out and XYZ. And then the jokes about in real life this or that in the show would have made an instant millionaires of the perp etc, etc. So they were fans of the show. It was great fun for group of them to get together, have some chips and salsa, a few beers and watch Grimm at the local watering hole. They even did the drinking game every time Nick, Hank, Wu or Renard violated the law, ringing a bell every time they violated procedure. A lot of it is lost on me as I do not drink nor am I a Leo.
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08-31-2016, 03:00 PM
I would guess that before there was a Grimm in town a lot of wesen used to just do the invisible woge to tap some of their enhanced abilities, and if they got cornered by a bunch of cops and couldn't make a clean escape just surrendered and did their time. Because in the world pre-BC uprising, going full woge and eviscerating kehrseite LEOs would have gotten them a fatal visit from someone dispatched by the Wesen Council.
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